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Upon Further Review - Week 6
David Dorey and John Tuvey
October 15, 2010
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In order to help our members better use the starting information that The Huddle provides, the intent of this page is to discuss perceived differences between The Start Bench List and Predictions and Projections . The players below were identified by multiple members. The two reports are written by two different people so differences are always possible, but at least this page should help you make up your mind about these players on your roster.

Johnny Knox (vs SEA) - PROJECTION:  70 yds SBL RATING:  s2

TUVEY: This one is all about the match-up. The Seahawks give up fantasy points to wide receivers, especially on the road, and Knox is the closest thing the Bears have to a consistent contributor. He's too iffy for an S1 but the matchup is too juicy for an S3; the difference between the SBL and PP is likely a touchdown, with the S2 indicating there's a good chance one will go to Knox and David's projection not giving one to Knox. I don't see any huge disagreement here; quite frankly, if you have a Bears WR on your roster for this game and you're not using him, you probably never will.

DOREY: I'd agree with John on this one. I am bothered by Knox having no touchdowns this year and the general overall lack of use of the wide receivers in a Mike Martz system but Knox is the best of the bunch. Gaining 70 yards is a big game for this group and the matchup really could not be any better.

CONSENSUS:  If you have Knox, this has to be a matchup to strongly consider unless you already have a set of studs to plug and play every week. Knox isn't likely to have a monster game because no Bears wideout every does but he should be the best bet of the group with some moderate yardage.

danny amendola (vs SDC) - PROJECTION:  70 + 1 TD, SBL RATING: S3

TUVEY: Amendola seems miscast as an S1, though right now the Rams don't appear to have another option. I don't necessarily trust him in that role, especially in what looks to be a tough matchup against a secondary that doesn't yield many points to wide receivers. Like David, my expectations are low; again, the difference appears to be he had to give someone a TD and it went to Amendola while I'm not as enamored with his chances.

DOREY: The Amendola projection is really born of a big unknown situation and while the confidence level is not high, he is the most likely to do something for the Rams. The loss of Mark Clayton is big and Bradford switched to Amendola last week for 12 catches for 95 yards. But that doesn't mandate it will happen again by any means. At home I really like Bradford to throw for one touchdown and really none of the current truly stands out as the best bet.

CONSENSUS:  It is far safer to consider Amendola as the "S3" and a marginal start than to rely on him catching a touchdown and leading the team in receiving. He has the upside and he did well last week, but this is an offense now transitioning into a new set of preferences with Clayton gone.

Start Bench List Ratings:
S1: Start 'em Tier One (Stud / Great matchup) U: Upside player (Possible sleeper)
S2: Start 'em Tier Two (Solid matchup) X: Unclear situation / Could go either way
S3: Start 'em Tier Three (Borderline / Barely) B: Bench 'em (Bad Matchup / Too much risk)
Predictions and Projections:
The projections are what is mostly likely to occur given everything that has recently happened added to the current team dynamics. They consider total rushing and passing yardage and scores and then distribute them between the most active starting players based on how the track record of the offense and the opposing defense along with variables like injuries, depth chart changes, venue, weather and so on.

COMMENTS (page 1 of 1)
gadfish
Posted Oct 15, 2010 8:23pm EDT
+ 1 on Turner - strange to see an S1, then see a lousy 80 yds predicted in the projections. Seems like this would be a much more interesting discussion than the disagreement over a couple of mediocre WRs like Knox and Amendola.
vidin
Posted Oct 15, 2010 5:54pm EDT
No Michael Turner discussion? An S1 vs. 8 pts? I agree wth the others we need more. I also agree Dorey and Walters/Tuvey for the last ten years- thats why I am here.
skinpig
Posted Oct 15, 2010 5:27pm EDT
It is the TD stupid...

DMD rounds the chance for a TD to 0 or 1...there would be less 'reviews' if the TDs were estimated in tenths...

so Knox might get a .4 TD projection, and Amendola might get a .6 TD projection...this would make Amendola just slightly better than Knox, instead of way better...making the projections more useful for wdis...which I thought was the purpose of projecting stats...
Suggestions
Posted Oct 15, 2010 1:01pm EDT
One last addition: I agree with the other commentator that some obvious are missed each week. I like how you two play nice in here but I'd like it more if it was: "Let me tell you why Dorey is wrong this week..." a little spark :)
Suggestions
Posted Oct 15, 2010 12:58pm EDT
A few suggestions to improve this article. I love both Tuvey and Dorey's rankings each week. It's probably the sole reason I pay the subscription every year for darn well near a decade. But this article could be much more. Maybe without making it reliant on people submitting, you guys put your heads together and come up with a list of the obvious ones. Or, make this a split column, where you critique (gently) each others more outrageous rankings and let the reader decide. You basically say your reasoning for how you rated each person so it's a easy jump to just say: "The Top 5 Tuveys" or the "The Top 5 Dorey Disagreements" of the week.
George
Posted Oct 15, 2010 10:29am EDT
Javid Best rated S2 but then only 30/30 no TD....???
Jed
Posted Oct 15, 2010 8:37am EDT
Matt Cassel vs. that horrible Texans secondary OR Matt Ryan vs. Philly?
 
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