The
Huddle
WEEK 7
October 15, 2003
Season Ticket
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| Philadelphia vs NY Giants |
Sun, Oct 19; 1 PM on FOX at Giants
Stadium |
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Philadelphia |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass |
| QB |
Donovan McNabb |
10 |
0 |
190 |
| RB |
Duce Staley |
20 |
20 |
0 |
| RB |
Correll Buckhalter |
30,1 |
10 |
0 |
| RB |
Brian Westbrook |
60,1 |
30 |
0 |
| TE |
Chad
Lewis |
0 |
10 |
0 |
| TE |
L.J.
Smith |
0 |
20 |
0 |
| WR |
James
Thrash |
0 |
40 |
0 |
| WR |
Freddie
Mitchell |
0 |
40 |
0 |
| WR |
Todd
Pinkston |
Q |
Q |
Q |
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New
York Giants |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass |
| QB |
Kerry Collins
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0 |
0 |
250,2 |
| RB |
Tiki Barber |
50 |
50 |
0 |
| RB |
Delvin Joyce |
10 |
0 |
0 |
| TE |
Jeremy Shockey
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0 |
70,1 |
0 |
| WR |
Amani Toomer
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0 |
60,1 |
0 |
| WR |
Ike Hilliard
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0 |
50 |
0 |
| WR |
Tim Carter |
0 |
10 |
0 |
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Game Prediction: PHI 17, NYG 20
Philadelphia Notes
Update: Todd
Pinkston's knee has kept him out of practice and listed him
as questionable to play this week. He still might be able
to practice on Friday and play, but I am removing him from
the projections. Brian Westbrook has practiced and although
he is listed as questionable with a hip pointer, he is expected
to be fine on Sunday. He may not return punts and kicks.
If Pinktson cannot play, Freddie Mitchell
will take his spot.
CB Bobby Taylor has practiced on Thursday
and may be able to play
Quarterbacks: The woes for Donovan McNabb are
getting no better. Last week he only completed 11 of 26 passes
for 126 yards against the Cowboys and nine of those throws
went to Todd Pinkston who never caught any of them. The only
saving grace was the 52 yard touchdown catch by Duce Staley
or McNabb's numbers would have been horrific.
McNabb is still bothered by the bone bruise to his thumb
and cannot throw or even hold on to the ball as well as he
should. He plays with some pain and for whatever reason, HC
Andy Reid is adamant that McNabb is their best shot at winning.
Flashback to the previous Dallas game in 2002 and McNabb threw
for 287 yards and ran for 67 yards. Last Sunday he ran five
times for five yards. McNabb is playing the position with
the same comfort level of a guy that just missed the last
tourist bus leaving downtown Baghdad.
Running backs: Brian Westbrook was having a
good game last week (8-37, 1 TD) when he suffered a hip pointer
and missed the second half. He is expected to be back this
week. In his place, Duce Staley rushed seven times
for 28 yards and Correll Buckhalter had 11 runs for
52 yards and a score. The running game is working, even if
nothing else is. Considering that Staley turned in the big
receiving touchdown, the running backs pretty much supplied
the entire offensive effort.
Wide Receivers: When McNabb cannot complete passes,
there is no hope for this crew. Todd Pinkston was the
most common target and had no catches. James Thrash
had 26 yards on two catches and by comparison, Freddie
Mitchell is the stud since he had one catch for 39 yards.
Todd Pinkston injured his knee in the game but an
MRI on Monday showed no damage. He will probably play this
week though no one is sure why anymore.
Tight Ends: Though they make nice big targets, last
week McNabb ignored them. Chad Lewis had one catch
for nine yards and L.J. Smith had one for five yards.
Just painful really.
Match against the defense: Here is a problem - the
worst game by McNabb last year was against the Giants when
he only threw for 137 yards. Then again, by his 2003 standards
that is pretty good.
The Eagles will find some success rushing the ball since
the Giants have been great against the run when there is only
one runner to worry about (Ricky Williams, Marshall Faulk)
but have been burned more by teams like NE and WAS that employ
two or more runners. That means no one runner is great but
several combined offers a good game. Knowing the Eagles woes
at passing, both teams know the Eagles are going to run.
The Giants come off a game in which they held Tom Brady to
only 112 yards passing so there is no great expectation that
McNabb snaps back to form at Giants Stadium.
NY Giants Notes
Quarterbacks: While Kerry Collins has long
been better at yardage than touchdowns, he has brought that
to a new level recently. In the past two weeks, Collins has
590 yards passing and no scores. He did manage four interceptions
last week but in his defense, MIA and NE brought two great
defenses to their games.
Running backs: Although Tiki Barber is always
mentioned as needing more help and rest, he still had 22 runs
for 71 yards last week and eight receptions for 48 yards.
Only Ricky Williams can claim to be used on more plays per
game than Barber. Both Dorsey Levens and Ron Dayne
have been normally inactive for games and Delvin Joyce
only carries one to three times a game. The Giants are still
losing games and Barber is not going to last for the approximately
350 carries he is trending out for this year.
Wide Receivers: For all the passing yardage by Collins,
it is surprising to note that neither Amani Toomer
(4-40) nor Ike Hilliard (5-58) are contributing much.
The duo are getting throws - 19 in all last game but continue
to catch only about half. Five of the six touchdowns thrown
by Collins has been to either Toomer (2) or Hilliard (3) which
is a part of the scoring problem when the two are not factors.
Tight Ends: Jeremy Shockey had 8 catches for
80 yards and is happy to be part of the solution instead of
being a problem. Shockey leads all NFL tight ends with 29
catches.
Match against the defense: The Eagles are slowly getting
better against the pass with the return of CB Troy Vincent
and possible return of Bobby Taylor. That could be a bad thing
for a team that needs wideouts to produce in order to score
points.
Barber had a 203 yard rushing game against Philly in the
last week of the 2002 season and a 79 yard effort earlier
in the year, but he will be hard pressed to replicate even
the 79 yard game. Last week Troy Hambrick only gained 46 yards
rushing and that was the season high the Eagle defense has
allowed an individual runner. Barber will keep his value with
receptions in the game though.
New York will be better served throwing the ball and trying
to figure out why it is easy to throw to Shockey and Barber
for yardage but almost never scores. Some of Collins success
will be contingent on the return of beat up Eagle secondary
and since these two teams could not combine for over 20 points
last season in two games, there is little reason to expect
that a touchdown avalanche is about to happen for Collins.
Game Prediction: While the Philly defense is getting
healthy and improving, the same cannot be said for their passing
game. McNabb is clearly not himself this season and until
the thumb heals up, he may not reach expectations. For now,
the Giants need a win at home for the first time since the
season opener and have enough offense to get past the struggling
Eagles.
| Team Comparisons - Current team
rankings (1-32) by position for FF points scored or allowed
by position |
| Rank (1-32) |
QB |
RB |
WR |
TE |
PK |
DEF |
| PHI Scores |
30
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5
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31
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27
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27
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27
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| NYG Allows |
20
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6
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26
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3
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27
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25
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| PHI AP |
-10 |
1 |
-5 |
-24 |
0 |
-2 |
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| Rank (1-32) |
QB |
RB |
WR |
TE |
PK |
DEF |
| NYG Scores |
12
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19
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12
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5
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15
|
10
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| PHI Allows |
29
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3
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27
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15
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21
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27
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| NYG AP |
17 |
-16 |
15 |
10 |
6 |
17 |
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Offensive ranks - lower = gains more points, Defensive
Ranks lower = allows less points
AP = Advantage Points, the net difference between a positional
rank gained or allowed by the teams.
| PHI |
NYG |
2003 Game Averages
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NYG |
PHI |
| Gains
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Allows
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QB's |
Gains |
Allows
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163
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258
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Pass
yards |
267
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241
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0.4
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0.6
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Pass
TDs |
1.2
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1.4
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1.0
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0.6
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Interceptions |
1.8
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0.8
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36
|
10
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Rush
yards |
0
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9
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0.0
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0.2
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Rush
TDs |
0.0
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0.4
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RB's |
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82
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73
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Rush
yards |
92
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57
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1.2
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0.4
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Rush
TDs |
0.4
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0.2
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44
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44
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Receive
yards |
47
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52
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0.4
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0.0
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Receive
TD's |
0.0
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0.0
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WR's |
----
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93
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188
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Receive
yards |
154
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166
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0.0
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0.6
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Receive
TD's |
1.0
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1.0
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TE's |
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25
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26
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Receive
yards |
66
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22
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0.0
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0.0
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Receive
TD's |
0.2
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0.4
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PK's |
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1.2
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2.0
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Field
Goals |
2.0
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1.8
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1.8
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2.8
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Extra
Points |
1.6
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2.4
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DEF/ST |
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0.4
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0.6
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Fumbles |
1.0
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1.2
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0.6
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2.2
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Interceptions |
0.4
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1.0
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0.2
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0.4
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Touchdowns |
0.4
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0.4
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1.4
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1.4
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Sacks |
3.4
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3.6
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0.0
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0.0
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Safeties |
0.0
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0.0
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Eagles (2-3) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 0-17 |
TB |
| 10-31 |
NE |
| Week 3 |
BYE |
| 23-13 |
@BUF |
| 27-25 |
WAS |
| 21-23 |
@DAL |
| Week 7 |
@NYG |
| Week 8 |
NYJ |
| Week 9 |
@ATL |
| Week 10 |
@GB |
| Week 11 |
NYG |
| Week 12 |
NO |
| Week 13 |
@CAR |
| Week 14 |
DAL |
| Week 15 |
@MIA |
| Week 16 |
SF |
| Week 17 |
@WAS |
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Giants (2-3) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 23-13 |
STL |
| 32-35 |
DAL |
| 24-21 |
@WAS |
| Week 4 |
BYE |
| 10-23 |
MIA |
| 6-17 |
@NE |
| Week 7 |
PHI |
| Week 8 |
@MIN |
| Week 9 |
@NYJ |
| Week 10 |
ATL |
| Week 11 |
@PHI |
| Week 12 |
@TB |
| Week 13 |
BUF |
| Week 14 |
WAS |
| Week 15 |
@NO |
| Week 16 |
@DAL |
| Week 17 |
CAR |
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* Fantasy point rankings calculated using standard Huddle
fantasy points |