The
Huddle
WEEK 8
October 22, 2003
Season Ticket
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| NY Giants vs Minnesota |
Sun, Oct 26; 1 PM on FOX at Metrodome |
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New
York Giants |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass |
| QB |
Kerry Collins |
0 |
0 |
210,1 |
| RB |
Tiki Barber |
80 |
40 |
0 |
| RB |
Dorsey Levens |
30,1 |
0 |
0 |
| TE |
Jeremy Shockey |
0 |
50 |
0 |
| WR |
Amani Toomer |
0 |
50 |
0 |
| WR |
Ike Hilliard |
0 |
60,1 |
0 |
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Minnesota |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass
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| QB |
Daunte Culpepper
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10 |
0 |
260,2 |
| RB |
Onterrio Smith
|
20 |
0 |
0 |
| RB |
Moe Williams
|
40,1 |
20 |
0 |
| TE |
J. Kleinsasser
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0 |
10,1 |
0 |
| WR |
Randy Moss |
0 |
120,1 |
0 |
| WR |
Nate Burleson
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0 |
30 |
0 |
| WR |
Kelly Campbell |
0 |
50 |
0 |
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Game Prediction: NYG
14, MIN 24
The Giants are playing solid football this season except
on two critical counts - they cannot score touchdowns and
special teams kill them. Playing inside the loud Metrodome
against a team that leads the league in interceptions will
make the Giants want to run the ball more than they already
planned. But the Vikings have an opportunistic defense and
an offense that is clicking now.
NY Giants Notes
The Giants are 2-4, trail the Cowboys by three games in the
NFC East and no one is saying "fuhgedda bout it".
They come off a second heart wrenching loss to a divisional
opponent (PHI) on yet another special teams gaffe. The Giants
stumble from their first six game with four losses even though
they only had two road games during that time.
Quarterbacks: Kerry
Collins only threw for 174 yards against the Eagles last
week, but he had only one interception and actually had a
touchdown pass - something he had not done since week three.
Then again, by comparison it was only three less passes than
he threw in week three when he had 276 yards and three scores
against the Redskins.
Running Backs: The interesting
development here is that Tiki Barber is no longer alone.
He gained 79 yards rushing and caught five passes for 34 yards
but also gave way to Dorsey Levens who rushed 16 times
for 64 yards. Levens was effective running against Philadelphia
and Barber welcomed the rest. Delvin Joyce no longer is the
primary backup for Barber, obviously, and Levens should see
more action this season.
One concern is that the Giants lost LG Rich Seubert to a
broken leg and now the offensive line will have three rookie
linemen.
Wide Receivers: The decreased
passing game has hit here the hardest. Amani Toomer
and Ike Hilliard are now only averaging around 60 yards
a game each and Hilliard actually had more passes last week
than Toomer. Since the Giants are not throwing touchdowns,
the wideouts are offering little more than third down work.
Notable too is the statement by HC Jim Fassel that he wants
to stop throwing the ball as much and concentrate on the running
game more as a way to actually score touchdowns. Levens success
last week showed that the Giants can do that and not need
to use up Barber in the process.
Tight Ends: Jeremy
Shockey has 190 yards and the only passing touchdown by
the Giants in the last two weeks.
Match against the defense:
Kerry Collins now gets to go to the Metrodome and face
a defense that leads the league in interceptions. FS Brian
Russell needs Collins to throw a pick so that he can have
the NFL record of seven consecutive games with an interception.
If that is not enough, consider that no visiting quarterback
there has made it through the entire game. Kordell Stewart,
Jeff Garcia and Steve Beuerlein all did not take every snap.
Collins is slated to do more handoffs and Barber and
Levens should combine for over 100 yards as did Hearst
and Barlow and Clinton Portis. The Vikings defense at home
is even better and no team wants to enter a passing war there.
The game favors Barber the most but even Levens could have
some decent yardage if Fassel continues to use him as heavily.
The passing game will be less used this week.
Minnesota Notes
The Vikings are - get this - 6-0 on the season and have a
three and a half game lead on the Packers. The Vikings could
collectively spend the next three weeks in Cancun and still
be in first place in the NFC North. They come off a nice win
over Denver. They are at home. They are looking pretty good.
Quarterbacks: Daunte
Culpepper returned from his back injury and though he
did not run, he was on his "A" game passing the
ball. He completed 19 of 26 for 277 yards and two touchdowns.
When he saw that a screen was covered, he rolled out and hit
Kelly Campbell for a 47-yard touchdown. Just as notable is
that Culpepper has yet to throw an interception this season.
Running Backs: Denver
presented a tough run defense and Moe Williams only
gained 42 yards on 14 carries but was in on that spectacular
Moss lateral for a touchdown. Onterrio Smith carried
five times for 29 yards and a score as well. They face an
equally good rushing defense this week.
Wide Receivers: Randy
Moss caught 10 of the 19 completions in the game, never
scoring but gaining a mere 151 yards in the process. Kelly
Campbell had the only other catch by a wideout and that
was a touchdown. Nate Burleson was thrown two passes but had
no receptions. It starts and ends with Moss except when he
tosses it over his shoulder.
Tight Ends: Jim Kleinsasser
- one catch for 13 yards last week. Heck of a blocker though.
Match against the defense:
As noted, the rushing game against the Giants will be tough
and most teams do not really try to run against them. Last
week the Eagles only had 24 carries and before than, the Bills
only tried 18. Those numbers rise if the run is used to finish
out a game which could happen here though.
The success against the pass should be almost certain. By
the numbers the Giants may seem to be getting better, but
facing the Eagles, Dolphins and Bills (sans Moulds) was hardly
a tough match. These Giants yielded 300 yard games to both
Quincy Carter and Patrick Ramsey.
| Team Comparisons Current
team rankings (1-32) by position for FF points scored
or allowed by position |
| Rank (1-32) |
QB |
RB |
WR |
TE |
PK |
DEF |
| NYG Scores |
16
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21
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19
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4
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18
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10
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| MIN Allows |
13
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23
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20
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11
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12
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3
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| NYG AP |
-3 |
2 |
1 |
7 |
-6 |
-7 |
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| Rank (1-32) |
QB |
RB |
WR |
TE |
PK |
DEF |
| MIN Scores |
3
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6
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3
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20
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16
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5
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| NYG Allows |
6
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7
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13
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2
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22
|
29
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| MIN AP |
3 |
1 |
10 |
-18 |
6 |
24 |
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Offensive ranks - lower =
gains more points, Defensive Ranks lower = allows less points
AP = Advantage Points, the net difference between a positional
rank gained or allowed by the teams.
| NYG |
MIN |
2003 Game Averages
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MIN |
NYG |
| Gains
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Allows
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QB's |
Gains |
Allows
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251
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243
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Pass
yards |
247
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226
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1.2
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1.0
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Pass
TDs |
2.5
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0.5
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1.5
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2.7
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Interceptions |
8.5
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0.7
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5
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10
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Rush
yards |
6
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8
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0.0
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0.0
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Rush
TDs |
0.3
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0.0
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RB's |
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102
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89
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Rush
yards |
110
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76
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0.3
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0.8
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Rush
TDs |
0.8
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0.5
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50
|
53
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Receive
yards |
45
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39
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0.0
|
0.2
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Receive
TD's |
0.3
|
0.0
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WR's |
---
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143
|
151
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Receive
yards |
185
|
158
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|
0.8
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0.8
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Receive
TD's |
1.7
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0.5
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TE's |
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59
|
39
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Receive
yards |
17
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28
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0.3
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0.0
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Receive
TD's |
0.3
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0.0
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PK's |
---
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1.8
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1.5
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Field
Goals |
1.2
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1.7
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1.5
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1.8
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Extra
Points |
3.7
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2.7
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DEF/ST |
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1.0
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0.7
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Fumbles |
0.3
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0.8
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0.5
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0.3
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Interceptions |
2.7
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1.8
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0.3
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0.0
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Touchdowns |
0.2
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0.5
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3.3
|
2.2
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Sacks |
2.7
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1.7
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0.0
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0.0
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Safeties |
0.3
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0.0
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Vikings (6-0) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 30-25 |
@GB |
| 24-13 |
CHI |
| 23-13 |
@DET |
| 35-7 |
SF |
| 39-26 |
@ATL |
| Week 6 |
BYE |
| 28-20 |
DEN |
| Week 8 |
NYG |
| Week 9 |
GB |
| Week 10 |
@SD |
| Week 11 |
@OAK |
| Week 12 |
DET |
| Week 13 |
@STL |
| Week 14 |
SEA |
| Week 15 |
@CHI |
| Week 16 |
KC |
| Week 17 |
@ARZ |
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Giants (2-4) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 23-13 |
STL |
| 32-35 |
DAL |
| 24-21 |
@WAS |
| Week 4 |
BYE |
| 10-23 |
MIA |
| 6-17 |
@NE |
| 10-14 |
PHI |
| Week 8 |
@MIN |
| Week 9 |
@NYJ |
| Week 10 |
ATL |
| Week 11 |
@PHI |
| Week 12 |
@TB |
| Week 13 |
BUF |
| Week 14 |
WAS |
| Week 15 |
@NO |
| Week 16 |
@DAL |
| Week 17 |
CAR |
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* Fantasy point rankings calculated using standard Huddle
fantasy points |