The
Huddle
WEEK 12
November 19, 2003
Season Ticket
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| NY Giants vs Tampa Bay |
Mon, Nov 24; 9 PM on ABC at Raymond
James Stadium |
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New
York Giants |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass |
| QB |
Kerry Collins |
0 |
0 |
230,2 |
| RB |
Tiki Barber |
80 |
30,1 |
0 |
| RB |
Dorsey Levens |
10 |
0 |
0 |
| TE |
Marcellus Rivers |
0 |
10 |
0 |
| WR |
Amani Toomer |
0 |
80 |
0 |
| WR |
Ike Hilliard |
Q |
Q |
Q |
| WR |
David Tyree |
0 |
70,1 |
0 |
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Tampa
Bay |
Rush
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Catch
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Pass |
| QB |
Brad Johnson
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0 |
0 |
240,2 |
| RB |
Michael Pittman
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40 |
20 |
0 |
| RB |
Thomas Jones |
40 |
10 |
0 |
| TE |
Ken Dilger |
0 |
30 |
0 |
| WR |
Joe Jurevicius |
0 |
80,1 |
0 |
| WR |
Keenan McCardell
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0 |
60,1 |
0 |
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Game Prediction: NYG
20, TB 17
This is a true coin toss game pitting two franchises that
are reeling and stand at 4-6 after being early favorites for
the playoffs. Both teams have been hit with injuries and now
the Bucs have taken to benching previous star players while
watching a running back no one wanted run like the wind.
This game should feature a lot of passing and possibly good
running by both teams. This will be a gut check game because
the loser falls to 4-7 and can throw in the towel for the
season at a shocking early date.
While home teams have been doing well this season, Tampa
Bay is only 1-4 at home and the Giants are 3-2 on the road.
The Giants have an excellent chance to win here and should
by a slim margin with a better offense and more weapons. The
only certain thing in this game is endless blathering about
Ronde and Tiki Barber playing in the same game.
NY Giants Notes
The Giants fall to 4-6 with their loss to the Eagles and
are on the road again.
Quarterbacks::
After two monster games that seemed to rid Kerry Collins
of his non-scoring demons, Collins has now turned in back
to back games that he was ineffective. Last week he had 268
yards and one touchdown that came in the fourth quarter when
the Giants already trailed 21-0. The previous week against
lowly Atlanta, he had no scores.
Collins has always turned in his biggest yardage games on
the road this season but the recent trend indicates that he
may not include touchdowns with it.
Running Backs: Though
the Giants have lost the last two games, Tiki Barber
had over 100 yards rushing in both and scored the lone New
York touchdown last week. Barber never fumbled last week which
is a positive sign.
Dorsey Levens is now back to only a handful of carries a
game and failed to score for the first time in three weeks.
Receivers: Against the
Eagles, the corner play took away Amani Toomer (6-57)
and Ike Hilliard (2-18) was limited and did not start.
In his place, Tim Carter (4-48) had the start and proceeded
to get his second concussion in two weeks. Carter is doubtful
to play this Monday.
The rookie David Tyree (5-106) took over for the fallen
Carter and looked good in trash time, including a 48 yard
catch.
Marcellus Rivers did nothing in place of Jeremy
Shockey who is recuperating quickly but will not play
this week.
Match against the Defense:
The Giants have a good chance at posting passing yardage against
a team that has allowed multiple touchdowns three times in
the past six games and that saw Garcia (253), Delhomme (277)
and Manning (386) turn in big games.
The most common target in the endzone has been the wideouts
which bodes well for Hilliard/Tyree but Toomer draws CB Ronde
Barber who will give up the pass at times but will also scare
Collins who does not want to throw an interception.
Barber faces a defense that has coughed up nice games lately
to Green Bay and New Orleans and he should turn in at least
an average game.
Much of the play spins on which Buccaneer team shows up and
based on the movement on the team lately, that is a team in
disarray. It will be a big Monday night game between two struggling
franchises.
Tampa Bay Notes
The Buccaneers fall to a lowly 4-6 on the season and have
lost their last three games. This is all so shocking.
Quarterbacks::The
shock here is that Brad Johnson comes off his worst
showing this season last week against the Packers when he
only managed to throw for 149 yards and one score with three
interceptions. Facing a normally weak Packer secondary, Johnson
was harassed all night and sacked three times. The visiting
Giants bring an equally bad secondary and will give him a
chance to redeem himself.
Running Backs: The shock
here is that Thomas Jones had rushed for only 91 yards
all season and then turns in 134 yards on only nine carries
thanks to two 50+ yard runs. Against one of the tougher run
defenses. Jones has not been deemed the starter but will certainly
see increased playing time.
Michael Pittman only gained 18 yards on eight carries
against the Packers and has gone a month since his nice game
against the Cowboys. Back to RBBC for now.
Receivers: The shock
here is that Keyshawn Johnson is now a Buc only to
the IRS. In spite of his salary, Gruden has decided to sit
Keyshawn the rest of the season and not even on the bench
- Keyshawn can plant his complaining bottom on his own couch
because he will not be allowed to be with the team. And you
thought it would get boring at the middle of the season.
The problem here is that it leaves Keenan McCardell
and Joe Jurevicius as the starting wideouts and McCardell
is questionable to play again this week. I am assuming that
he does play as he did the past week and scored a touchdown
as well.
Match against the Defense: Let's
see - Keyshawn is long gone and Thomas Jones is running wild.
Sure - this will be easy to predict.
The Giants just gave up 314 yards to McNabb and typically
yields multiple touchdowns to teams that want to pass as the
Buccaneers will try. The Giants secondary has been beaten
up and injured and on the road in Tampa Bay is not likely
to make them feel better. The question is how successful Johnson
can be with an ever-dwindling set of receivers.
The Giants also can give up the run, but the Bucs are playing
mix and match now so more than likely, no one runner will
have a big day. Unless Jones has another big gainer left in
him. The only safe play here is really within the passing
game and for Johnson and McCardell though Jurevicius could
hardly ask for a better secondary to begin his career as a
starting receiver.
| Team Comparisons - Current team
rankings (1-32) for FF points scored or allowed
by position |
| Rank (1-32) |
QB
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RB
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WR
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TE
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PK
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DEF
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| NYG Scores |
9
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14
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12
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5
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26
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27
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| TB Allows |
8
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18
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19
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3
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7
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22
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| NYG AP |
-1
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4
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7
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-2
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-19
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-5
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| Rank (1-32) |
QB
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RB
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WR
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TE
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PK
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DEF
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| TB Scores |
6
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15
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9
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6
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28
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5
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| NYG Allows |
11
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27
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14
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2
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4
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24
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| TB AP |
5
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12
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5
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-4
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-24
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19
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Offensive ranks = #1 gains most points, Defensive
ranks = #1 allows least points
AP = Advantage Points, the net difference between a positional
rank gained or allowed by the teams.
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NYG
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TB
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2003 Game Averages
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TB
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NYG
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Gains
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Allows
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QB's
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Gains
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Allows
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274
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204
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Pass yards
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244
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199
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1.1
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1.1
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Pass TDs
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2.0
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1.4
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1.4
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1.6
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Interceptions
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1.3
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0.8
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3
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7
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Rush yards
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6
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11
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0.0
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0.0
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Rush TDs
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0.0
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-0.1
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RB's
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107
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97
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Rush yards
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102
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104
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0.5
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0.8
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Rush TDs
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0.3
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1.0
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48
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32
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Receive yards
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59
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48
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0.1
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0.1
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Receive TD's
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0.3
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0.4
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WR's
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156
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149
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Receive yards
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153
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130
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0.9
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1.0
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Receive TD's
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1.1
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1.0
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TE's
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69
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23
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Receive yards
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32
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21
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0.1
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0.0
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Receive TD's
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0.5
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0.0
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PK's
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1.3
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1.3
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Field Goals
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0.9
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0.9
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1.8
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2.1
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Extra Points
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2.8
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2.8
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DEF/ST
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0.6
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0.9
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Fumbles
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0.6
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0.8
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0.8
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1.3
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Interceptions
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1.6
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1.4
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0.0
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0.3
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Touchdowns
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0.4
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0.3
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2.3
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1.8
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Sacks
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2.1
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1.9
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0.0
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0.0
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Safeties
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0.0
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0.0
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Giants (4-6) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 23-13 |
STL |
| 32-35 |
DAL |
| 24-21 |
@WAS |
| Week 4 |
BYE |
| 10-23 |
MIA |
| 6-17 |
@NE |
| 10-14 |
PHI |
| 29-27 |
@MIN |
| 31-28 |
@NYJ |
| 7-27 |
ATL |
| 10-28 |
@PHI |
| Week 12 |
@TB |
| Week 13 |
BUF |
| Week 14 |
WAS |
| Week 15 |
@NO |
| Week 16 |
@DAL |
| Week 17 |
CAR |
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Buccaneers (4-6) |
|
Score |
Opp. |
| 17-0 |
@PHI |
| 9-12 |
CAR |
| 31-10 |
@ATL |
| Week 4 |
BYE |
| 35-38 |
IND |
| 35-13 |
@WAS |
| 7-24 |
@SF |
| 16-0 |
DAL |
| 14-17 |
NO |
| 24-27 |
@CAR |
| 13-20 |
GB |
| Week 12 |
NYG |
| Week 13 |
@JAX |
| Week 14 |
@NO |
| Week 15 |
HOU |
| Week 16 |
ATL |
| Week 17 |
@TEN |
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* Fantasy point rankings calculated using standard Huddle
fantasy points |