Update: Ike Hilliard remains doubtful to play and David Tyree is expected to get his first NFL start. Jeremy Shockey and Marcellus Rivers are both not expected to play. Jesse Palmer will be the starting quarterback. This is not shaping up well for the Giants in any form or fashion.

The Giants were already ugly and now will likely not have Collins or Hilliard this week. The Saints proved that they were nothing special in their home loss to Tampa Bay last Sunday but against the Giants they would almost have to try to lose in order to let the Giants achieve anything.

NY Giants Notes

The Giants fall to 4-8 on the season and have lost their last five games.

Quarterbacks:: The bad only gets worse. Kerry Collins suffered what was diagnosed as a high ankle sprain and will give way to Jesse Palmer this week. Palmer threw 7 of 11 for 83 yards last week in that way trash time quarterbacks come in and look promising. He did lose one fumble... of course.

Running Backs: Tiki Barber (AKA "the last working piece") ran for 99 yards on 16 carries last week and added 47 yards on three catches but set the tone last week with a lost fumble on the very first series. He now has six on the season. Dorsey Levens came in and scored the only touchdown in the game on a short run, his first score in the past month.

Receivers: Amani Toomer had two catches for 30 yards while Ike Hilliard had only 15 yards on his two catches. Hilliard also sustained a sprained knee and will likely miss this week against the Saints. Tim Carter led receivers with three catches for 42 yards before, of course, sustaining his third mild concussion in four weeks.

The Giants expected playoff season has turned into a "last man left standing" affair and that survivor pool is getting more shallow every week.

Match against the Defense: Considering that the offensive couldn't hold out the defense even if they were allowed baseball bats, it doesn't really matter here. Palmer is a relative unknown in game experience and may have little more than Toomer and Barber to catch a pass.

Two of the last three visiting quarterbacks never scored and in the past ten weeks, no visitor has exceeded 213 yards and that was Brad Johnson last week with actual blockers around him.

This is shaping up to be the best shot at a shutout that the Saints may have for a long time.

New Orleans Notes

The Saints fall to 6-7 and quite probably eliminate their chance to reach a wildcard. At best, they will need luck and for JAX and DAL to stop trying in weeks 16 and 17.

Quarterbacks:: Aaron Brooks is in jeopardy of losing his starting spot if he does not stop losing fumbles according to HC Jim Haslett. His ten lost fumbles is tops in the entire league and he had three last week. He only has six interceptions on the season. Facing the Giants should be just what he needs.

Running Backs: Deuce McAllister failed last week in his bid to reach ten consecutive 100+ yard games and ended with only 69 yards on 22 carries against a surprisingly motivated Bucs defense that had already allowed him 110 in Tampa Bay back in week nine.

Receivers: Last week Joe Horn finally got over 100 yards after five games below 76 yards. He had nine catches for 118 yards while the only other wideout with a catch was Jerome Pathon with only eight yards and one reception.

Boo Williams caught the one touchdown pass and had 59 yards on four catches. That makes the third consecutive game in which he has scored. Between he and Horn, they had 19 of the 30 throws Brooks made last week.

Donte Stallworth is doubtful to play this week and by this point it does not even matter why.

Match against the Defense: The Giants have not allowed but two 100 yard runners this season but by a schedule quirk they have faced almost entirely no big time runners. McAllister should be a lock for 100 yards this week and could add in some decent passing yards as well.

Brooks will face a defense that has only recovered one quarterback fumble in the past eight games. Not only has every quarterback thrown a touchdown in the past seven games, five of them had at least two. Look for a nice day from Brooks as well who should be able to hook up with, again, most likely Horn and Pathon. Boo Williams faces a team that has allowed only one score to a tight end the entire season.

* Fantasy point rankings calculated using standard Huddle fantasy points